There has been a rather strong reaction to the last post which was an anonymous post submitted by a mystery shopper. On the whole there was a good reaction with responses saying how finally there is some transparency as to what agencies charge and whether they provide Registered Interpreters or not.
Before I go on I need to publicly apologise to RAD (Royal Association of Deaf People) and their interpreting service. The original post stated that the mystery shopper had emailed RAD twice and had no response. After a complaint was made by RAD, the mystery shopper was informed. They got back to me after a few hours when they had investigated and found RAD’s original response in the spam folder of the Gmail account that was used. As the spam folder does not automatically show up in the navigation menu the shopper was unaware a response had already been sent. This information has now been added to the original table. Needless to say many people who work with the Deaf community and beyond are aware of RAD’s excellent interpreting service. They state any profit that is made from the service is put back into their Deaf community projects. They had also clearly stated they only use NRCPD Registered Interpreters.
The mystery shopper and I, as publisher of the information, both sincerely apologise for any inconvenience or damage done. When I realised that information was missing I should have flagged this up before publishing the post. It is regretful and I truly hope RAD, its employees and any interpreters that may be affected by this error, can accept this apology.
The mystery shopper has now added a comment on the original blog with the original script of the email and an explanation of why the survey was done in order to clear up any misunderstandings.
I also need to notify readers of the blog of one more addition to the table, with a very late response, which was K International. They quoted £250 + VAT for the mystery assignment lasting an hour. No information was given about standards or registration.
On the whole both interpreters and Deaf people have been overwhelmingly positive about the survey. There has been much talk of agency standards and even regulation over the years which has not come to anything yet. This is, in the main, because it is not in the interest of most agencies to be regulated. This needs to come from an external body. Work has been done on publicising the registration process to Deaf people who are better informed than ever about their rights to a Registered Interpreter. It is the most vulnerable who would be unaware or unable to ask to see an interpreter’s registration badge on arrival and these are the people who need protecting.
What I am also aware of is that some agencies have said they only use Registered Interpreters but I have know them to use CSWs and signers on occasion. Until we have regulation and more accountability there are agencies that will continue this practice.
It is worth noting that a cheaper price often reflected the fact that an agency had in house interpreters who they were able to provide at a cheaper cost or the agency required freelancer interpreters to work at a much reduced rate than the published average from ASLI’s Fees and Salaries survey indicating that profits were more important than quality of interpreter or standard of service. It is hard to tell as a consumer of interpreting but interpreters will find this information useful as they will know what they are being asked to charge.
What the survey has cleared flagged up is:
– many agencies are using unregistered and untrained interpreters and charging hundreds of pounds
– some of the bigger agencies are charging over double the amount a freelance interpreter would quote
– some parts of the Deaf community are still vulnerable to the unethical practices of some of these agencies
– many of the interpreter and some of the Deaf-led agencies came out favourably with the interests of Deaf people at heart
– people booking interpreters are being given wildly differing and sometimes completely inaccurate information about interpreters and the registration system i.e. being told someone with level 3 is ‘good enough’ for an assignment
– we need to set up regulation of agencies urgently
– we need to stop the use of CSWs being used for any assignment and agencies should not be allowed to decide on behalf of the consumer as to whether or not this is acceptable
– we need to protect the title of interpreter to ensure anyone who is not a Registered Interpreter can not legally work as one to safeguard all involved
Again, I would like to thank the mystery shopper. It really wasn’t me. I am merely the messenger. Please do not shoot me.
BSL
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Anonymous Shopping: How Much Interpreting Agencies Really Charge
Submitted Anonymously
I decided a few weeks ago that what the profession needed was a bit of mystery shopping, so I contacted all the agencies on the list via email and requested a ‘signer’ for a small business conducting a recruitment interview for an apprentice, one of which was deaf. We were flexible on times, but needed the ‘signer’ for an hour in the morning. After getting a response I sent an email back with a confused query about qualifications and registration. You can see the responses for yourselves. All discussions took place via email and I have kept the responses should anyone wish to challenge the information provided. My personal opinion is that as a general rule, interpreter led agencies come out on top.
AGENCY | QUOTE | NOTES |
Aditus | £120 + travel + £30 admin fee | Claimed to only use fully qualified and registered interpreters |
Couldn’t provide anyone in house for the time requested, offered to find an alternative from their databases | ||
Included full terms and conditions | ||
Explained the registration process clearly. | ||
Action on Hearing Loss | £168 + travel | Claimed all interpreters used were qualified and registered |
(3 hr minimum) | ||
appa | RSLI – £50 per hour, CSW £45 per hour | Offered to help me apply to ATW to cover costs – then their fee becomes all inclusive, they offer a free service to deal with AtW paperwork |
First booking receives a 10% discount so charges would be Interpreter £45 per hour, CSW £40.50. No VAT added on travel. | Explained the difference between interpreter and CSW as interpreter has level 6 BSL and CSW level 3 or 4, Recommended for an interview someone with level 6 BSL should be used | |
(2 hr minimum) | Offered me an interpreter for the afternoon initially though I had requested the morning then later stated they had someone available | |
Applied Language Solutions | Unknown | Emailed. No response. |
Bee Communications | £250 + VAT + travel | Offered advice on interviewing a deaf person |
Try to offer fully qualified (level 5) called MRSLI | ||
Said I probably didn’t need that level and could book a cheaper trainee | ||
Later offered someone fully qualified and to lower the fee to £240 inclusive | ||
Big Word | £50 (3 hour minimum) | Claimed that registered and qualified signers were only needed for ‘official representation’ such as courts, but not for job interviews |
Total cost = £150 + VAT + travel time + expenses | Offered to locate an interpreter local to me so as to save on travel costs | |
BSL Beam | N/A | Stated straight away that they were not an agency, but explained their position in the market |
Offered some reputable specialist agencies local to the area | ||
Offered a detailed and comprehensive explanation of the NRCPD registration process | ||
Explained the risks of using someone unqualified | ||
Provided an explanation of Access to Work | ||
BSL Link4Comm | £136.50 + travel | Claim to only use experienced NRCPD registered interpreters |
(3 hr minimum) | Mentioned equality legislation and the impact of using unqualified people | |
Mentioned code of conduct | ||
City Lit (Sign Here) | Unknown | Transparent – said they didn’t have anyone available until Sept |
Redirected me to the NRCPD website – told me how to book direct to save money | ||
Gave me an indication of industry standard fees to expect and pointed me towards information on working with an interpreter | ||
Fully explained what registration and qualification meant – only organisation to correct my use of the term ‘signer’ and explain the difference | ||
Outlined the legal ramifications of using a ‘signer’ | ||
Clarion | £159 + travel + VAT | Said “don’t necessarily need a fully qualified interpreter but you would want minimum level 3.” |
(3 hr minimum) | I asked if level 3 was enough, the response was that it depends | |
Codex Global | Unknown | Refused to quote without full information and details |
Cohearentvision | N/A | No one available – pointed me towards the London Interpreters website |
Communication ID | £125 + VAT | Explained the difference between RSLI and unqualified. |
Claim to only use RSLI | ||
Mentioned ASLI and NRCPD | ||
Deaf Agency | One off fee of £42 (first time customer) | Said “We like to keep our costs down and try to be a flexible as possible” |
Usually £126 + travel + VAT | Claim all staff are registered | |
Deaf Direct | Unknown | Recommended booking an agency locally and offered some contact details |
Mentioned NRCPD and recommended booking someone fully qualified, checking registration status and then explained why this was important | ||
Told us we could save money by booking an interpreter directly from the NRCPD website | ||
Explained ATW and provided a link to the website | ||
Deaf Positives | £145 + VAT + travel | Claimed that a registered interpreter was required but not essential |
Clarified what RSLI meant | ||
Said “The other type of sign language interpreter is Registered Trainee Interpreter and they are trainees from approx level 1 to level 3.” | ||
Deaf Umbrella | £143.14 inclusive of travel and VAT | Told me that MRSLI’s were more expensive |
(2 hr minimum) | Said ” Unless your candidate has specifically requested a fully qualified Interpreter, a lower level of sign support would be completely appropriate. “ | |
MRSLI did not need to be booked unless client specifically requested one, but they take weeks to book in advance | ||
They had a member of staff available to interpret | ||
Suggested ATW as a way of covering the cost of interpreting and a member of staff could help | ||
Diversus | £162 + VAT + travel | Pushy – kept requesting my full details and a confirmation |
Sourced an interpreter before I’d even confirmed I wanted one | ||
Essex Interpreting | £120 + travel + VAT | Claim to use only registered interpreters. Mostly qualified, some JTI |
Femaura | Unknown | Said “Level 6 is full qualified” |
Only really wanted to talk over the phone | ||
Interpreting Matters | £170 + VAT | Claim to only use registered interpreters |
Full explanation of NRCPD registration process | ||
Price dependent on interpreter fee | Explained ATW | |
Explained the ramifications of using unqualified people | ||
Islington Council | N/A | Explained that they only cover council bookings in Islington |
Recommended booking a registered interpreter | ||
Mentioned ASLI | ||
Offered a guide for industry standard freelance fees | ||
Just Communication | £210 + VAT | Claim to “only use qualified registered interpreters” |
K-International | £250 + VAT | |
Language Empire | £175 + travel + VAT | Said “Interpreters with a Level 4 is the minimum qualification we use…” |
(3 hr minimum charge) | Fees are for ‘Special Disability Interpreting’ – Charges are the same for CSW’s and Interpreters, ‘Finger Spelling’, ‘Deaf Blind Manual’ & ‘Deaf Blind Hands On’ & ‘Lipreaders’ | |
Language is Everything | Wouldn’t state their charges | Claim to use qualified & registered interpreters |
Stated interpreter industry standard charges as: | Clear about the legal ramifications of using someone unqualified – Mentioned DDA | |
£90-£130 + travel | Referred me to ASLI | |
Language Line | N/A | Outsource all bookings to Clarion |
Lexicon Sign Stream | Unknown | Explained the qualification and registration process in detail |
Explained minimum charges and industry standard fees | ||
Offered to source a local interpreter | ||
Merrill Corporation | £260 + VAT + travel | Claim to only use qualified and registered interpreters |
Mentioned NRCPD and safeguarding and standards | ||
Provided an attachment outlining the roles of BSL interpreters, STTR & Lipspeakers (NRCPD registered) – all comprehensive and accurate | ||
MLIS | Unknown | Claim to only use qualified translators and never trainees |
Very non committal until had all of my details | ||
Neal Communication (NCA) | £150 + travel + VAT | Asked about qualification levels but preferred to speak over the phone so no clear response |
(3 hr minimum) | ||
Newham Language Shop | £120 + VAT | Claim to only use qualified interpreters and do not ever use unqualified interpreters |
Offered to email some advice on how to work with a “signer” | ||
Onestop Agency | £50 per hr, 3 hr min + travel | Claim to only use fully qualified interpreters or trainee interpreters |
Total £150 + travel | Recommend not using level 3 NVQ signers and only use those on the register | |
Say their charges are based on interpreter 3 hour minimum charges | ||
Offered a brief explanation of using a BSL interpreter | ||
Pearl Linguistics | £70 per hour | Claim “we have access to more BSL interpreters than any other language agency” |
(3 hr minimum) | Fully explained the difference between a level 3 signer and what it means to be fully qualified and registered | |
Total £210 + travel + VAT | Said “As to your situation, I believe you should be fine with a “level 3”. | |
Positive Signs | Initially free – money accessed through government scheme | Claimed to only ever use qualified or experienced personnel |
Just said “variable”, has since disclosed fees as £37 RSLI per hour, CSW £32 per hour inclusive of travel + admin fee | Free’ interpreters available through apprenticeship scheme, funded using public funds | |
Prestige | £289 + VAT | Said all their interpreters were BRCPD registered (could have been a typo) and explained that all people registered had to submit evidence of qualifications |
Mentioned the code of conduct that interpreters were expected to follow | ||
Mentioned the three hour industry standard minimum fee and their charges reflected that | ||
Quick Lingo | £250 + VAT | When quote was challenged, the response was “we charge for the service which includes travel time, travel expenses, plus minimum interpreting time charge.” |
Said “Level 3 is sufficient for this assignment and we can provide at least that.” | ||
RAD | £130 (2 hour minimum), £47ph thereafter, + travel, no VAT charged | Stated full charges, on charge sheet clearly explained that only NRCPD registered interpreters were used. |
Remark! | £120 + £10 travel + VAT | Very pushy, tried to sell me a BSL course |
Offered a RSLI | ||
Said “Costings for a qualified interpreter can be very expensive as there are not many qualified interpreters out there “ | ||
Sold themselves as deaf led and community focused. Profits fund activities in the deaf community. | ||
Said they could only find an interpreter (in house) for the afternoon and no interpreters were available for the morning; did not offer to source a freelancer | ||
I had requested a morning booking. Said short notice meant no other interpreters were available unless I wanted to change the date | ||
Rosetta Translation | £75 per hour | No response when I enquired about qualifications |
(3 hr minimum) | ||
Half Day £300. + travel + VAT | ||
Sign Language Direct | £250 + VAT (3 hr minimum) | Said “Since this regards an interview, the 3rd level shall be fine.” – in response to my query about qualifications |
Half Day £300 / Full Day £450 (1 interpreter) | Said that fully qualified interpreters were only ‘obligitory’ for police and social services | |
Half Day £600 / Full Day £900 (2 interpreters) | ||
Sign Solutions | £145 + travel + VAT | Checked interpreter availability and quoted based on the interpreter fee – told me where the interpreter was travelling from |
Offered to negotiate travel expenses | ||
Signing Works | £135 + VAT + expenses | Explained industry standard booking half day or full day |
Bristol based – offered a comparative fee. | ||
Claim to only use qualified interpreters for job interviews | ||
Advised about ATW | ||
Explained the complexity of BSL levels and why it was specialist and required some who was qualified | ||
Signs In Vision | £35 per hr + travel + £15 admin fee | Mentioned NRCPD & ASLI & recommended checking for badges |
(3 hr minimum) | Explained the NRCPD registration included CRB, insurance and qualification | |
Total £120 + travel | Included a Deaf Awareness document | |
Included T&C with explanation of NRCPD & ASLI at the top | ||
Silent Sounds | £144 + travel | Recommended a Trainee Interpreter for the interview |
Highlighted the time involved with training | ||
SL-I-D | £120 including travel | Mentioned ATW and reclaiming costs |
(Half day minimum) | NRCPD registered | |
Explained the ramifications of using someone unqualified | ||
SLBF | Unknown | Emailed twice. No response. |
Surrey Council | £150 + travel + VAT | Claims to only use registered interpreters |
(First Point) | (3 hr minimum) | |
Terp Tree | £170 + travel + VAT | Explained industry 3 hour minimums |
(3 hr minimum) | Claim to only use qualified and registered interpreters | |
Follow up email sent with client recommendations | ||
(Will waive fee if unhappy with service) | Mentioned ATW | |
The Sign Language Bank | Unknown | Emailed twice. No response. |
Today Translations | Said it can be fine for some signers to “freely pass on the meaning of spoken langauge” but as a general rule they won’t risk it. | |
Added that “Job interviews are stressful for everyone. If you add hearing problems on top of that…you can imagine how wrong it can go!” | ||
Said “Most of sign interpreters grew up in a household were one or both of the parents were deaf” | ||
Explained that becoming a sign langauge interpreter requires study and practise | ||
Total Communication | £200 including VAT and travel | Told me the interpreter quote was for fully qualified. After I asked about level, I was told that they were “Level 6 , Trainee Interpreter. So it is above Level 3” |
Ubiquis | £300 + VAT + travel | Claimed to only use fully qualified and experienced interpreters |
Offered information about qualifications and registration | ||
Stated that unqualified interpreters would charge less | ||
Offered a local alternative to their company | ||
UK Language Solutions | £60 per hour + £30 per hour travel | Said “A level 3 qualified interpreter may be acceptable for some interpreting assignments” |
(2 hr minimum) | But claim to only use qualified and registered interpreters | |
Veritas Language Solutions | £164.60 + £32 VAT | Aimed to source an interpreter close to the booking to save on travel |
Said the interpreter had a two hour minimum charge, but would not state whether they were qualified even though I specifically asked | ||
Wolfestone | £75 + VAT | Requested information about qualifications but received no response |
Additional hours £50 per hour | ||